Axe The Bad Stuff And In With The Good | Dr. Josh Axe

Axe The Bad Stuff And In With The Good | Dr. Josh Axe


Hey, it’s Dr. Jack Wolfson, the Paleo cardiologist,
and I’m so honored today to have on the Healthy Heart Show, Dr. Josh Axe. And If you don’t know Dr. Josh Axe, I don’t
know where you’ve been hiding out because Dr. Axe is all over the place and for good
reason. Because he is changing the face of health
care, not sick care, the area where I came from, but health care and wellness. And Dr. Axe is at the forefront. Dr. Axe is a doctor of naturopathic medicine. He is a doctor of chiropractic, just like
my beautiful bride, Dr. Heather. And he is a nutritionist, as well. So, welcome Josh to the show, pleasure to
have you on. Hey, thanks for having me, Dr. Jack, excited
to be here. You got it, my friend. So, you have so many things going on in your
world. You’ve got the website, which is just a wealth
of information. It’s like whenever I want to learn about something
or I’m looking about some kind of food or some kind of nutrients, I get onto Google
and there is my buddy, DrAxe.com, to give me that information. So kudos to you for really getting that info
out there and, of course, your line of supplements and your knowledge of essential oils and the
stuff that you’re doing as far as the … You know, you’re the creator of the bone broth
protein and a lot in the keto space. So, tell me what the latest? What’s been going on? Yeah, you know, I been doing a lot in sort
of the vitamin supplement world, working on a lot of new products, lot of keto stuff. I think that there’s a right and a wrong way
to do keto, as you and I both know, so I’m teaching a lot of … I’m actually authoring
a book on the keto diet. I think the keto diet’s one diet, I don’t
think it’s for everybody. I think it’s for a lot of people who are looking
to really transform the health of their brain. Somebody’s who’s looking … There’s clinical
studies on it for PCOS or fighting cancer and weight loss, fast weight loss, diabetes. So there’s some really good evidence on the
keto diet. It’s for some people, it’s not for everybody. But I wanted to get a book out there because
I know this keto trend is continuing to grow, but there’s a right and a wrong way to do
keto. And I had a patient a few years ago who came
into my clinic and he said “Dr. Axe, I’m on the keto diet.” This was probably five years ago now. “I actually make myself a burger, a bacon
burger and for dinner I do butter, bacon, and eggs, I know it’s not much variety.” I’m like “That’s not the way to do that.” And so, it’s really important that hey, if
you’re doing some turkey bacon, that’s great, if you’re doing some grass fed beef burger,
that’s fantastic. And yeah, some ghee and butter, pastured butter’s
fine, but you need other things, too, you know? So I think when you’re on a keto diet, it’s
really important that you are getting lots of alkaline vegetables, lots of minerals that
are very alkaline in nature, and really balancing your body out. The thing is, there’s a right way to do keto
where you can lose weight really fast, you can transform your health. You have got to eat real food, healthy fats,
avocados, coconut, olives, tahini and nuts and flax seeds and wild caught fish. That’s the way it supposed to be done. And, anyways, so that’s something I’ve been
spending some time on recently. When I was a cardiology fellow in back 2000,
I was at a meeting at the American College of Cardiology and I saw this debate for about
45 minutes between the late Robert Atkins, obviously of low carb fame, and then Dean
Ornish of low fat fame. And I walked out of there and said “Wow, what
this guy Atkins is saying about going low carb makes total sense.” But I think as you alluded to, there was not
this differentiation between healthy fats and what he was pushing was a lot of ketosis
back then, but he had no say as far as “Hey, is it free-range grass fed or is it quality
fats like avocados?” He was all about shoving in a soybean oil
base. And I know you and I are, obviously, both
very big on organic. I know that Ancient Nutrition, your company,
you guys have so many different organic products available. And that’s really where I try and push things
as I know you do, as well. But it’s that quality of the fat that matters. But maybe take us through a little bit of
the wrong kind of high fat program, which obviously would lead someone into ketosis
without … You know, listen, I’ll let people go to your book and, obviously, read all about
and what ketosis is and what ketogenic is and what not. But for now, maybe let’s just say it’s obviously
high fat. But where are people going wrong? Yeah, so here’s what I’d say. First off, you want to stay away from what
I call the three Cs and three Ss of fats, okay? So, you want to stay away from any oil that
says, cotton seed, corn, canola oil, for the most part. You want to stay away from those three Cs. And I know these are in some health products,
but I’m not a fan of soybean oil. I’m not a fan of … In most cases, if it’s
been fried, sunflower and safflower oil, because polyunsaturated fats is Omega-6s, they’re
just more sensitive and so, for those reasons …
Now if you’re doing just a pure sunflower oil that’s never been heated, it’s a little
bit of a different story. But I think, in general, when you’re buying
packaged food products, when you’re seeing those in there, those oils are sensitive oils
and I don’t they’re the best. So staying away from those fats, I think,
is really important. And staying away from conventional meat products. We know you are what you eat what they ate. Or also what was put into their system. So when we’re talking about conventional beef
today, it’s higher in certain types of saturated fats and, hey, there’s good and bad saturated
fats. But also you know, you’re going to be getting
more of those pro-inflammatory Omega-6s, you’re going to be getting less CLA, less Omega-3s. You’re going to be getting higher amounts
of different types of steroids and growth hormones, especially in both the dairy and
the meat. So I think it’s important to consider, if
you’re going to go keto, you want to stay away from conventional meat, conventional
dairy, the three Cs, the three Ss, all those refined and processed oils. You want to consume loads and loads of these
food categories, lots of vegetables, lots of nuts and seeds, lots of wild, organic meat,
such as wild-caught salmon, grass-fed beef, that whole thing, organic eggs. And also, lots of herbs and spices I put in
the category, lots of bone broth, fermented foods. And herbs and spices, I think those are something
that we really miss out on in all diets today. It’s not just keto, it’s vegan diets, still,
even though you’d think that they’d be getting more herbs and spices than others. Paleo, for the most part, too, and you’d think
that that would be getting more herbs and spices. But that’s something you really notice, when
you look at Eastern medicine today, especially Asian, Indian, and middle Eastern cultures,
they are using loads and loads of spices, from turmeric to fenugreek to cinnamon to
black pepper. They’re using a lot of these herbs. I use the term a lot, “food is medicine,”
but it is most true for herbs and spices. I know that broccoli was sort of the king
20 years ago of super foods, and then we got into kale, all the popularity of kale. Let’s think, kale and broccoli are amazing
super foods, but if you’re comparing the nutrient density of turmeric or holy basil leaf, or
even cinnamon or ginger, those compounds to what’s in kale, man … Those herbs and spices
will blow these other foods out of the water. I mean, parsley and cilantro are more nutrient-dense
than kale, just simple garden herbs. So that’s something I’m really passionate
about teaching people is you want to heal your heart, you want to start cleansing out
your cardiovascular system and reversing heart disease? Load up on those herbs and spices, those culinary
herbs and spices. Turmeric with some black pepper is obviously
a great combo to be throwing in food, but there’s a lot of others as well. Of course, garlic is great. But those are some things to think about. Yeah, you know, I tell my patients, open up
the spice drawer and just dump it all into your food. You can do all kind of different recipes,
and there’s a million different recipe books that are out there. But just open up the spice drawer and dump
it into your salad, into whatever food you’re cooking. If you’re cooking chicken, you’re cooking
steak, you’re cooking seafood, throw it all in there. And I love to tell people to make their own
salad dressing, so break out that fancy blender that you spent all that money for that you’re
not using because it’s sitting in the closet. Well, get it out, wash it out with a good
quality soap, and then you’re going to put in your extra virgin olive oil and your lemon
or apple cider vinegar. Throw the anchovies in there for healthy Omega-3s
and great source of calcium. And then just dump the spices in there. It’s a great way to get it into kids as well. So where did the pharmaceuticals come from? They came from the spice industry, and from
a cardiac standpoint, if you look at blood pressure drugs, things that are ACE inhibitors,
those are all things … Instead of taking an ACE inhibitor, which your body is not deficient
in, take the spices that act like those inhibitory proteins. Ginger, as you mentioned is an angiotensin
receptor blocker, so instead of taking some pharmaceutical that may increase cancer risk,
now you can do it in ginger. And the other thing that blocks, now that
I’m on that thread, the angiotensin receptor, is vitamin D. So by doing vitamin D, you get
that as well. But you know, you bring up a lot of these
things that I know you have an expertise, obviously, in Asian medicine and Chinese medicine. Where do you see Chinese medicine playing
a role, certainly in cardiovascular disease, but in disease in general? Yeah, so you know, the way that traditional
Chinese medicine, and even to a degree, Ayurvedic medicine … And by the way, you and I both
know this, they’re the oldest forms of medicine in the world, up there with Egyptian medicine. These forms of medicine have been around over
3,000 years. They’ve been proven over and over again. I just want to say, when you look at, it’s
funny, I remember about eight years ago or so, the studies came out showing when you
consume turmeric or curcumin, that extract, that you should take it with piperine, which
is what’s in black pepper. All these scientists were like, wow, this
breakthrough discovery that this compound piperine improves absorption of the compounds
in turmeric. It’s funny, there were ancient recipes for
turmeric golden milk or turmeric golden tea. It’s been around 3,500 years. It’s a blend of turmeric with a warming spice
trio called trikatu, which is black pepper, ginger, and long pepper. And then healthy fats like ghee, typically,
or sometimes coconut. Coconut used more in Asia and ghee used more
in India. And they knew that then. They knew that turmeric, when you consume
it by itself, you absorb very little of it. But when you consume a warming spice, it sort
of opens up your capillary, it opens up your cardiovascular system to allow more of these
nutrients to then get into the bloodstream, and then they also knew fats. Fats support absorption, we’ve seen lots of
studies showing how fat, like even from coconut oil and others, improve absorption of certain
vitamins and nutrients. All that being said, there’s so much proof
when we look at ancient medicine and everything from Ayurveda to Chinese medicine to others. But all that being said, in Chinese medicine,
if you go into a traditional Chinese medicine doctor today, what they’ll typically do is
they’ll look at your tongue, and then they’ll feel your pulse. They’ll just look at your appearance, see
what’s going on too, ask you some questions. But in general, I have a good friend of mine
who’s here in Nashville, and I’m actually … I won’t call myself a master in Oriental
medicine, but I would call him that. I’ve learned a lot over the years and treat
any patients or anyone I care for this way. But looking at the tongue, for instance, if
I look at somebody’s tongue and if there’s only a white coating on the back … Your
tongue looks pretty good, of course. But the back of the tongue, it’s indicative
of kidney or adrenal issues. It’s that reproductive health. You can tell if somebody has adrenal fatigue
based on the back of their tongue. If the entire tongue has a white coating,
that’s going to be dampness, in Chinese medicine. Now, today we’d call it candida or yeast overgrowth,
but that’d be known as dampness. If there’s ridges on the side of the tongue,
that’s typically liver going on. If there’s any sort of suds on your tongue,
it typically means gall bladder, there’s some frustration happening there. Excess redness on the tip of your tongue,
that’s heart health or lack of sleep, oftentimes there. I could go through a lot more, but anyways,
those are just some basics there. Looking at your tongue, I can have somebody
stick out their tongue and almost immediately know what’s going on with them. If it’s pale and there’s shaking going on,
it’s a blood deficiency such as anemia. So really, you can tell almost everything
from the tongue, or again, from the pulse. The pulse will tell you a lot as well. Or if somebody’s [inaudible 00:13:45], especially
in terms of their chi, and that’s overall … What’s somebody’s overall level of energy
within their body. I know when I first heard of Chinese medicine,
read a little bit about it, I’m like, “Chi, yin, yang, man, that all seems out there. That’s a little weird.” And then I just realized, it’s a different
language, it’s a different way of describing things, and it’s very, very accurate. The most accurate form of medicine in the
world, if you ask me. And so, when we’re looking at heart health,
oftentimes in Chinese medicine, there is a level of dampness in the body, and there’s
also a lot of times, an element of that red tip of the tongue. There’s just a level of anxiety and lack of
actual deep sleep. In order to really nourish the heart, and
in different flavors, nourish different organ systems or different elements in Chinese medicine
… In Chinese medicine, the heart is part of what’s called the fire element, and it’s
really also looking at certain tastes and seasons. But it’s bitter, is the flavor related to
heart health. And I will say this, just thinking about this. The number one killer in America today is
heart disease. It’s the number one disease killer. There are five different flavors that we have,
tastes. Bitter might just be the last flavor, along
with umami, but bitter is very, very low on that scale of foods we get. In fact, sweet is number one, salty is number
two, sour number three, umami and bitter. And bitter foods are what heal your heart. It’s bitter foods. Such as? And what would you recommend as far as bitter
foods? I mean, immediately, obviously I’m thinking
about radishes. I’m thinking arugula. Arugula is just so loaded with nitrates, converting
it to nitric oxide, and to me, that tastes very bitter. Yeah, you’re right. And I mean, number one, it’s herbs in general. I mean, even though we might think of cinnamon
as being sweet, it’s sweet but it’s bittersweet. So you got arugula, we got dandelion greens,
radicchio, broccoli rabe is super bitter. Brussels sprouts, to a degree. Coffee, actually, is bitter. And then, you know, dill is super bitter. Turmeric is bitter. I mean, just taste an herb straight, parsley’s
really bitter. So all these foods are really bitter, and
what happens, when you consume bitter foods, it activates two channels, your heart channel
and your liver, known in Chinese medicine. Your body starts to release bile, and it helps
your body better break down fat and absorb the nutrients in fat, those fat-soluble vitamins,
and so that is really the key. In Chinese medicine, if somebody was having
a heart issue, they would say number one prescription is, start eating bitter herbs and spices and
more bitter foods and vegetables, and that’s really going to go a long way to helping heal
the heart, improving absorption, digestion. And they would also say warming foods. Warming foods are going to open things up
too, so everything from cayenne pepper, turmeric, ginger, those are all … Rosemary, you know,
a lot of these are in the warming spice categories. One of my favorite, I guess you would say
is part of the Chinese medicine category, is a supplement called berberine, and berberine,
if you look at the literature, the Chinese have been studying berberine for 75 years
and berberine does tremendous as far as lipids are concerned, as far as blood sugar is concerned. Hundreds of studies about how berberine kills
cancer, and you mentioned PCOS, polycystic ovarian syndrome. You mentioned for people with prostate enlargement. And also for, there’s literature that it helps
to heal the leaky gut, and of course it’s a tremendous antibacterial. So, love berberine from our friends in traditional
Chinese medicine, right? Yeah, I mean, berberine’s awesome. It’s typically known, probably most widely,
you’re right, for its antimicrobial benefits and for what it can do for getting rid of
parasites and infections and viruses. It’s used as an anti-parasite, antiviral in
Chinese medicine. Which is a big part of that problem, what
I talked about earlier, sort of that dampness that can happen in the body, it can help in
eliminating that. And let me say this too, when we talk about,
and I know there are obviously, there’re different conditions, but the number one diagnosis that
tends to happen in Chinese medicine with Americans today is what’s called a spleen deficiency,
which is, they would call dampness. And dampness is, you ever get sick with a
cold or a flu, you got snot, mucus in your throat. So mucus is very damp, and imagine you’re
in Florida, and it’s super humid there, right? And there’s flooding. If you ever have flooding in a home, there’s
always a risk for mold growth. You don’t have that problem as much in Arizona,
hey, maybe it can happen, but- Oh, we do, we do, we do. Believe me, we do. It’s kind of scary. Mold is like one of those underlying toxicities,
I agree. But go ahead. Mold needs a certain environment to grow. It needs to be a stagnant, not a lot of wind
moving, and it also needs to be damp. It needs that damp environment, so it’s the
same thing in your body. And this goes for, what causes somebody to
have a fungal overgrowth or a yeast overgrowth like candida, your body is damp internally,
typically damp and cold. And that’s what happens. So in Chinese medicine, bitter foods dry up
dampness. It’s that bitter flavor, and that’s something
that’s missing, you know, I see this with … Both, a lot of naturopaths are just doctors
that are holistic, because you know, somebody will have candida or an issue like that, and
they’ll say, “Hey, we’ve just got to take a lot of natural things that are antibiotics
and eat no sugar.” Well yeah, no sugar’s fine, but you’re not
changing the environment. We’ve got to change the internal environment
and that’s how, ultimately, you heal. And so, to get rid of candida, yeah, most
of foods are lower sugar, but you got to dry up the dampness with all of those bitter foods. That’s why Pau d’Arco is super fantastic for
candida. It is super bitter, that’s one of the reasons
it’s so good. Sage is actually very bitter, and that’s another
great one for drying up that dampness in candida there as well. So you know, those can be great. Just to give you another example though, it’s
like, why do we call it a cold? That’s a Chinese medicine term, because your
body is cold internally. So all the natural treatments are warming
spices. It’s ginger, it’s cayenne, it’s garlic, it’s
cinnamon. In Nashville, when I first moved here I had
a … It’s funny, he’s a pastor, now that I’m thinking of it. But I’m like, “Hey John, you need to go home
and I’m going to have you take this elderberry and this echinacea and this.” He’s like, “You know what else? I just want to make sure this is good, doc. I’m going to do a hot toddy,” and I’m like
… I hadn’t heard of that, I’m like, “Well, what’s a hot toddy?” And he’s like, “Well, you know, it’s whiskey
and-” And I’m like, “Let me read up on that,” and
then it’s funny, I went and read, and I’m like, whiskey is the most warming of all of
the [crosstalk 00:20:33]. And then you probably started [inaudible 00:20:34]
you probably sampled some organic whiskeys just to make sure he was on to something. Exactly. I actually do think there’s maybe some better
options, but whiskey is hot and warming, so versus beer is cooling and will make you a
lot worse anyways. All that being said. And I will say this, is that, when I was over
at your house and it was so nice to hang out with you guys in the Nashville area. You made me breakfast that day, and I remember
it, obviously so well, because they were four eggs cooked perfectly, just the way I like
it. They were sunny side up, the yolks were runny,
the healthiest way you can do it, and it was absolutely delicious. And I loved just opening up the spice drawer
and dumping them on top of the eggs, because like you said, you get all that delicious
fat, you mix it in with all these different bitter spices that you’re talking about, and
it’s a great way to get it into kids as well. My kids haven’t complained, once in a while
they’re like, “Dad, why are the eggs always green?” And it’s, “They’re green because I’m dumping
in all the spices. And if you don’t like it, well, you know,
I’m sorry. That’s just what the rules are. My goal is to keep you healthy. As a parent, that’s my number one mission
is to keep you healthy and safe, and that’s what we do.” I know obviously, you have a lot of expertise
as well in essential oils. A lot of my patients ask me about essential
oils, and people are wanting to know kind of what that plays in with heart health. Maybe some of the oils that maybe kind of
crank up parasympathetic tone, lower sympathetic tone. Where everybody else is driven in that mode
of go, go, go, go, go, it no doubt leads to high blood pressure, heart rhythm issues. We want to boost up parasympathetic. Is that something that essential oils can
help us with? Yeah, absolutely, especially the right essential
oils. I’ve got several I’m thinking of here. Some of them diffusing, and then some of them
to use internally. I think when you are buying essential oils,
look for certified organic, make sure they’re labeled as a dietary supplement, just make
sure you’re getting quality there, especially for internal use. For internal use, and sometimes these aren’t
just essential oils, they’re known as CO2 extract essential oils or CO2 oils. I love turmeric essential oil. Turmeric oil internally is really powerful,
it’s high in curcumin, which actually helps reduce inflammation, it’s high in turmeric,
which actually increases stem cell production, so regenerating new and healthy tissues. So turmeric oil is my number one. Number two, holy basil essential oil. Holy basil is great for diffusing, so just
… Holy basil, in Ayurvedic medicine, was known as tulsi, and it’s known as an adaptogenic
herb. It’s going to help lower cortisol levels. There’s clinical studies, hey, holy basil
lowers those cortisol levels. So diffusing holy basil is great. With holy basil, what I would partner it with
in diffusing is lavender essential oil. In fact, there’s a clinical study on lavender
oil helping lower blood pressure in patients, a systolic blood pressure. It’s a great essential oil, it’s a very calming
oil. You can use it any time of day, but I really
like that blend of holy basil oil with lavender essential oil for reducing cortisol, calming
the nerves, both great for that. And then a few others I think are great, even
if it’s a drop internally or diffusing it, a rosemary oil. When we hear anti-inflammatory herbs, I think
most people’s head goes to turmeric and ginger, and they’re both fantastic. But rosemary is actually one of the most anti-inflammatory
culinary spices available. So diffusing or a drop or so of rosemary oil
internally is great, that’s another one that I just love. And then as an oil, and sometimes it’s as
a CO2 extract essential oil, or sometimes it’s a straight oil. Black cumin oil, or its cousin black seed
oil, but black cumin and black seed, talk about bitter. In fact, that’s one of the most bitter seeds
in the world. And so black seed is really, or black cumin
oil, another great one for heart health. Yeah, we actually sell that in the office
here as well. We’ve got the black cumin seed oil, but also
the organic black cumin seeds. That’s another thing I tell people to throw
into the blender, but that is a real strong taste. That’s something you want to kind of build
up slowly. But you’re right, the Egyptians have been
using that for 5,000 plus years, and it’s so medicinal, what that does. I absolutely love it. And getting one of those diffusers, like you
said, it’s so simple to buy it, natural grocers, Whole Foods, a lot of those stores. Obviously online, you can buy all those things
to help people. I think certainly, fundamentally from a cardiac
standpoint, the people out there with atrial fibrillation, heart rhythm disorders, it’s
an imbalance of certainly the adrenals, of thyroid, and certainly when it comes to that
autonomic balancing of the parasympathetics and sympathetics. I think that’s all tremendous. So, tell me what’s going on with Josh Axe,
tell me what’s next, what’ve you got planned over the next five years? Yeah, absolutely. Actually, before, I did want to give a few
other points just on supplements. If people are wondering, “Hey, what are some
of the best things?” And one of the things I wanted to mention
was collagen. A lot of people aren’t fully aware of this,
but your arterial and your vascular walls are made up of partly collagen. And so, this is something I see, a lot of
times people kind of get weakened arteries as they get older, or have issues even with
spider veins and those types of things. And so really, you want to strengthen your
arterial walls, the fascia that hold your organs. If people are out there, are taking protein
powders from rice, to pea, to whey protein, a lot of times, those proteins, they’re really
not doing anything for your health. I mean, maybe whey for vanity purposes and
you’re a body builder, but for the most part, I think getting a collagen protein and looking
for a multi-collagen protein or a bone broth protein, I think those are great because they’re
going to help strengthen those cardiovascular walls. So that’s one supplement to consider. One of the most popular herbs used in Chinese
medicine is hawthorn, for overall heart health. So that’s one to consider just for general
overall heart health, I think it’s great there as well. But I just wanted to mention those two. I think the essential oils are great, using
a lot of the culinary spices there, too. And what I’ve come up with, the next five
years, you know, I’m excited about a lot of stuff. I think Jordan Rubin, my business partner,
and I, we’re just out there doing a lot with a lot of retail companies now. You know, like actually, Target just picked
up our products, our entire collagen line. Whole Foods Market has our keto line, our
collagen line, our probiotics and multis, they’re getting all of those in now. And then Costco just picked up our collagen. They’re picking up our bone broth protein. So, I mean, it’s great. You got places like Target and Costco where
you can go and find Ancient Nutrition products, which we’re really excited about. But you know, I’m just on a mission to really
continue to teach people how to use food to transform their overall health. I think that the more when we’re in the kitchen
thinking about, “Hey, if I add some rosemary here, and some turmeric here, and some garlic
and black pepper and some cilantro,” just knowing what that’s doing for us and our health,
and getting the fake food out, getting the real food in. I’m passionate about just going around and
teaching that message and truth, and now just formulating a lot of products that people
can use with them in a convenient form. You know, I was teaching my patients to make
their own bone broth at home and just saw how difficult that was for them. And then myself and Jordan Rubin said, “You
know what? We need to be able to get bone broth in just
a powder form, where people can travel with it,” and we’re going to be doing that a lot. You know, we’re doing that with a lot of keto
products, which you can find at Whole Foods and natural grocers and individual health
food stores all over the country. But we’re also going to do that with, I actually
like some CBD products here in the future, so we’re excited about that, and the just
calming benefits that has for the parasympathetic nerve system there as well. The next five years, I’m coming out actually
with a keto book, coming out with … Well, I can’t say that one yet, but coming out with
a lot of stuff here. We will, we will. I mean, listen, obviously we appreciate having
you, obviously on the health and wellness side, and really, this is all the health revolution. Coming from where I came from in the sickness
model, where the average cardiologist has no idea what we’re even talking about, the
spices that we’re talking about. They just think, “Hey listen, go eat whatever
you want and take your statin drug and you’ll be fine. Take your aspirin,” and people are wise to
that. This isn’t the 1970s, where you go visit your
doctor and you listen to whatever they said without doing any kind of research. Now, there’s the ability to go to websites
like yours, to be able to find this information that you’re not going to find in your doctor’s
office and you don’t need to. So this is really where prevention comes in. You talked about the rosemary. Real quick, one of our favorite recipes is
rosemary almonds. We take the almonds and we’ll either do some
kind of grapeseed oil or a ghee or even a butter, and bake the almonds with that, kind
of coat it up a little bit, and then sprinkle the rosemary all over it. And rosemary is so cheap, it’s probably growing
in your back yard and you don’t even know it. If you’re not spraying it, just go harvest
that, and it really … It’s a weed, it grows so easy. And for those that don’t have a garden, just
grow rosemary in a bucket inside your house. It’ll grow, and you’ve got something that’s
tremendously nutritious. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I mean, it’s funny, Chelsea and
I, with her parents, we have just a vacation home we go down to in Florida. I mean, our shrubs are rosemary, so, funny
you say that, but yeah, it’s a great idea. I love that. All right, well, fantastic. Thank you so much, Dr. Axe, Dr. Josh Axe,
for being on the Healthy Heart Show. An absolute pleasure, and hope to have you
on again in the future to tell us what’s the latest. Awesome. Hey, thanks for having me, Jack. Appreciate it.

4 thoughts on “Axe The Bad Stuff And In With The Good | Dr. Josh Axe

  1. Thank you so much for what you both are doing! I have learned so much since I began my journey to a healthy heart when I found out I had a frighteningly high coronary calcium score and can't take statins. I first read Dr. Wolfson's "The Paleo Cardiologist" book two years ago and continue to appreciate the work you are doing. If only I could get my family on board! It's so hard to find a good integrative medical doctor where I live, I would love to be entered in the Heart Healthy Makeover.

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