Best Vegan Diet for Health is Not Starch Based with Dr. Joel Fuhrman

Best Vegan Diet for Health is Not Starch Based with Dr. Joel Fuhrman

John: This is John Kohler with
Today we have another exciting episode for you and this one’s very exciting for me and
should be for you guys too since I have a special guest on my show today. I’m here with
Dr. Joel Fuhram. He’s one of the guys I look up to and I follow his dietary advice and
would encourage you guys also to follow his dietary advice as well. He has books on how
to reverse diabetes and heart disease and how to get kids to eat healthy.
One of the main things he teaches besides just eating a plant based diet or a starched
based diet, which are important, he takes it to the next level, right and I want you
guys to take your diet to the next level as well by eating a nutrient dense or what Dr.
Fuhrman calls nutritarian diet. So in this episode we’re going to ask Dr. Fuhrman why
it’s important to not just eat a plant based diet, but to more importantly eat a nutrient
dense diet or nutritarian diet. So Dr. Fuhrman, what would say?
Dr. Fuhrman: Thank you. In response to what you just said I say a couple things. Number
one, I’m a little confused about this word plant based any way because scientists the
world over don’t know what that means and the vegan community, they use that to mean
vegan plant based but world-wide scientists don’t use it to mean vegan, they don’t know
what that means plant based. Based means more than half. The American diet is only 32% of
calories animal products. It’s already plant based.
So I’m concerned about using that word in the scientific literature, because it’s unclear
and I want to use, so I was thinking nutrient dense, plant rich and I coined the term nutritarian
to be clear that it means a diet to be nutrient rich, but nutrient comprehensive, complete
with all the nutrients humans need and of course it’s a diet that’s designed to maximize
human longevity. I know it’s not for everybody, there are reason why people chose to eat certain
things for economic reason, the cheat that’s available, maybe there are foods that are
more locally grown, but whatever the reason it is and some people eat foods that they
prefer to eat, they eat foods their nutritional guru tells them to eat.
But see, a nutritarian diet is designed not based on what’s best ethically for the environment
or best, but it’s really what would be best to extend human longevity and I want to keep
my issues focused on my specialty and my specialty is what would be the diet style that would
be most effective at extending human longevity the max with no other considerations, most
especially protective against cancer because you can eat relatively healthy to protect
against heart disease but most Americans who haven’t eaten healthy the first half of their
life and already have DNA damage, methylation defects and broken DNA cross links and defects
in the mitochondria can’t just eat moderately healthy, they have to eat a diet with nutritional
excellence and that’s my specialty. How can we design a diet with nutritional
excellence, not just to be plant rich but also we know from hundreds, even thousands
of scientific studies that some plants are particularly more effective at preventing
cancer and extending human lifespan than other plants. The exposure to these rich plants
that are so protective gives us the ability to extend human lifespan, whip out the potential
of getting cancer and maximize our chances of having a long life past the age of 95 with
our mental faculties intact. Now I realize the average American dies at 79 and the bell
shaped curve is wide, which means a lot of people die between 60 and 79. We can narrow
that curve with any type of plant based diet, we can move the curve right, we can expand
human lifespan with any kind of plant based diet. But that doesn’t mean because it’s better
than the American diet, that doesn’t mean it’s designed to maximize human lifespan potential.
That’s my particular interest and not giving people what’s good, but what’s best. You could
do whatever you want out there but I also want to make sure I don’t sell anybody out
with information that’s not optimal and conservative in the sense that some people don’t thrive
on typical vegan diets and they don’t thrive for various reasons.
As a physician who’s been in practice for 25 years having seen tens of thousands of
patients, many thousands who haven’t thrived on a vegan diet doing blood tests and ascertaining
though careful analysis why they’re not thriving, instead of seeing these thousands of people
switching to a diet back to eat more animal products again, finding out why they’re not
thriving and making sure people don’t develop problems and some people do require more B12
than others, some people require more vitamin D and some people get DHA deficient and brain
shrinkage is not something that can be reversed. We know that a small percentage of people
on a vegan diet can develop DHA levels because of genetic deficiency, the convergentic enzymes
that could make them at high risk of developing dementia in later life which we’re seeing
in a lot of vegans today and I see in my practice all the time.
So I not only want to design a program to maximize human longevity but I want to make
sure I don’t sell any people out and that means young children eating a diet that’s
not, that’s a vegan diet not designed to be favorable, people with certain genetic weaknesses
or tendencies as well as the elderly who require more protein diet and we design the nutritarian
diet is designed specifically with nuts and seeds that protein rich and beans that are
protein rich and green vegetables that are protein rich.
It’s a little higher protein from plant proteins than is a more typical vegan diet makes it
more not only lifespan promoting, but it’s in those extremes of life and the early for
the people who are younger and childhood or as you get elder and your protein assimilation
goes down that you could get muscle atrophy, bone weaknesses and more disability and even
increased risk of cancer do to F1 dropping too low that the nutritarian diet is predominately
vegan and some people could do it on a flexitarian or near-vegan diet but either way.
We want to design it so it doesn’t leave some people out at the extremes of developed problems.
So you can’t, so I’m being more conservative, more careful and I think that some of the
vegan community are quite radical in prescribing one dietary approach for everybody assuming
that nobody can develop a problem in it and not paying attention to really making a diet
ideal for as many people and throwing out the widest net possible. You know what I mean
by throwing out the widest net possible? John: Yeah, absolutely. This is why I choose
to eat a Fuhrman nutritarian dense diet myself because it’s, from all the diets I’ve seen
and I’m a pretty smart guy, it’s the best that I’ve seen then I also try to do things
on my own to make Fuhrman’s diet better by growing my own food to have higher quality
fruits and vegetables because that’s the basis of his diet. So Fuhrman, for people that are
not familiar with your diet style you want to recommend and share with them the foods
that you eat, the g-bombs. Dr. Fuhrman: Well, the g-bombs aren’t the
center piece of the diet, but they are an acronym to help people remember foods they
want to eat regularly, almost daily because those food have very powerful effects that
work synergistically to fight off cancer and the g-bombs G-B-O-M-B-S: greens, beans, onions,
mushrooms, berries and seed. I just want to say something you said I want
to object to. I don’t really like to call what I do a Fuhrman diet, and I’ll tell you
why I object to that because it’s not a diet that it’s like it’s my diet, I’m taking, I’m
just like, I’m a student of nutritional literature worldwide and I read 20,000 and I really have
done this my whole life in evolving this as my career. As the studies come out, as the
studies change if something becomes more powerfully protective, like I’m finding out more about
raw onions in these last five years and I’m eating raw onions myself to see how protective
they are, my father died of chronic lymphocytic leukemia and when I find that raw onions are
protective against chronic lymphocytic leukemia I’m using them more in my dishes.
The point is there’s no one Fuhrman diet that I’m sticking too, that I’ve placed my hat
on. It’s whatever the scientific literature shows is ideal to prevent cancer and accelerate
people’s longevity. So that’s why, I didn’t and eating healthy and eating high nutrient
plant foods that are protective and extend longevity have been around for hundreds of
years. There’s a lot of people that came before me, the natural hygiene movement, a lot of
people who were advocated raw food and healthy eating for years before.
So I just don’t think that I feel comfortable putting my name on the diet. You could call
it, I sometimes call it a nutrient dense, plant rich diet to use the rich which means
more plants than based because based means more than half and rich means more than the
majority, I’m just trying to be more accurate in language. I think to be accurate in language
I don’t prefer, I prefer not to call it a Fuhrman diet either.
John: Alright. Dr. Fuhrman: Just to call it a really healthy,
super-healthy diet, sometimes I call it superior nutrition, nutritional excellence so I use
the word nutritarian to just sum up that word, it means high in nutrients and rich in plants
and trying to design to maximize human longevity. John: Awesome, yeah. I mean that’s the other
thing, a nutritarian diet, I’ll say that instead it’s something that’s flexible and is changing
over time, not like a dogmatic because as research changes he changes his diet and may
make different recommendations on changing things and including things like powerful
nuts and seeds that I know a lot of you guys watching may be on a more lower fat diet.
So Doctor Fuhrman why are nuts and seeds very important and essential to eating nutrient
dense and to be disease protective and that’s why I eat this diet style for not only disease
protection but also for longevity which are two of the most important things for me.
Dr. Fuhrman: Right. Well there’s just too much overwhelming evidence that you can’t
deny. You have to bury your head in a garbage pail to think that cutting nuts and seeds
out of a diet is going to make a person live longer. There’s hundreds of studies that shows
otherwise. I actually collected a hundred studies this last couple years and sent the
whole pile of a hundred to Doctor Dean Orange to read because we’re friends, we’ve been
friends and talking that more. But in case, the point I’m making now is that
the evidence is overwhelming that a vegan diet that’s low fat, below 10% of calories
and fat, omitting nuts and seeds like that shortens human lifespan you don’t absorb phytochemicals
as much, you’re not getting the anti-cancer effect from the vegetables from taking all
the fat out of your diet. You’re not getting those beneficial sterols, stanols, fibers,
anticyodins [?], they’re just factors, lignins, there’s things in this, those things are cancer
protective and there’s benefits to stabilize your blood vessels and there’s just so many
benefits for brain function with walnuts. I mean you can’t possibly, there’s in other
words, if you think that excluding nuts and seeds is a benefit then you haven’t read the
overwhelming amount of evidence that says otherwise. If you have, you could not have
conclusion or if you’re coming to that conclusion there must be some predetermined bias, or
ego going on that’s making you not accept this, the reality of the accumulated evidence
that you can’t deny at this point. So a diet, an extremely low-fat vegan diet is not favorable
to maximize longevity. When you eat nuts and seeds it lowers the
overall glycemic effect of your diet, exposing you better absorption of nutrients from other
foods. It increases stool fat, it sucks out bad cholesterol and other toxins out of your
tissues, puts them onto the toilet bowl. There’s so many benefits from using beans in your
diet and from using nuts and seeds in your diet and from the consumption of especially
raw green vegetables, cooked mushrooms, berries, these things where there’s hundreds of studies
on each particular food we’re talking about here showing their benefits and either you’re
going to, either we’re just going to come up with some crazy hypothesis and believe
people’s viewpoints based on their personalities or we’re going to be scientists without bias
and look at the scientific literature and see where the evidence points and when you
do that you can’t, you have to face reality here.
John: Yeah, that’s the other thing I want to encourage you, get some of Doctor Fuhrman’s
book, he has all the references in his books for the studies that share why he does what
he does. Dr. Fuhrman: I show the reference on both
sides by the way, like for example with regard to salt or DHA deficiency I discuss, for example
what’s the, where’s the studies that hide this DHA, it could be bad. Let’s look at those
studies, it could be good let’s look at those studies, why are there conflicts, why do people
choose one side or the other and why are the studies co-confusing, I try to look at all
the evidence and interpret the data in a way that makes logical sense, that explains the
conflicting evidence in a way that makes sense obviously and this making sense is that too
much has bad effects and sometimes too little has bad effects too and we want to be in that
sweet spot when we don’t know something we want to err on the side of caution and do
things, what’s most sensible and conservative, not to screw any people up by our, letting
or predetermined bias effect messing anybody up based on your ego or something.
John: Right that’s another thing I like about Doctor Fuhrman is that it’s not like right/wrong,
good/bad, even with animal consumption as long as you’re eat less than 10% and for some
people even less than 5% of your calories, that could be alright on a nutritarian style
diet and we need to get enough of these things that are essential but not too much of things
that are non-essential like in my opinion the animal products, although certain other
things like sodium, we need sodium is an essential nutrient but we don’t want too much of it
because that can cause real bad problems. Any comments Doctor Fuhrman?
Dr. Fuhrman: That’s probably true what you said. My only comment to what you just said
is I don’t know precisely whether a vegan diet is best for all people but it’s best
for a lot of people and it might be the best diet out there. But some people may do better
with a small amount of animal products, some people, some elderly people may do better
with a small amount. I’m designing a vegan diet with enough of
the, with enough of the high protein plant foods so less people have to go on animal
products to get the protein they need as their protein assimilation goes down over the age
of 80 years old so people who are body builders or really serious athletes or as elderly people
need the extra calories and extra protein don’t need to use much animal products in
their diet. But we don’t want to come across dogmatic in the sense that we know everything
or that there may be some, what’s the word, variants for individuals that are somewhat
different from others and some people may thrive on a diet with a little bit of animal
products compared to none. But my point is just because a person doesn’t
thrive on a vegan diet doesn’t mean they should go back to eating a lot of animal products.
They should design the vegan diet to be more favorable for them without the animal products
then if they do still need some animal products it should be the smallest amount possible
because there’s too many detrimental possibilities when you’re taking in too much animal protein
and also contaminants and other reasons why we want to get the animal products relatively
low if a person needs them. John: Yeah, and the whole thing we want to
focus on is once again the nutrient dense foods, fruits and vegetables, beans, mushrooms,
onions, berries like Doctor Fuhrman says. So Doctor Fuhrman any last comments for my
viewers today to improve their life, to improve their health to improve their longevity.
Dr. Fuhrman: Yes, their, yes we’re talking, yes this is the advice is about greens, onions
and mushrooms and that there’s some enzymes that are heat sensitive in greens and onions
that should be consumed raw every day. So your green vegetables, kale, collards, lettuces
and things like that, you want to eat some raw greens every day or raw shredded cabbage
or watercress, arugula, beneficial myrosinase especially is heat sensitive and even if you
take some of that raw and you add some cooked vegetables with it you get more nutrients
from the cooked vegetables because you ate the raw vegetables the same meal because the
myrosinase enzymes you consumed that was heat sensitive could be used for some of the cooked
vegetables to benefit their digestion and their formation of the beneficial isothiocyanates
which likewise the alliinase enzyme in onions is very beneficial to form those beneficial
anti-cancer organosulfite compounds. So you want to eat some raw scallion or raw onion
on your salad. You don’t just want to eat cooked onion because you’re deactivate the
alliinase enzyme. That’s A-L-L-II-N-A-S-E. Two ls, two is, any interested word, no other
word’s spelled that way alliinase. Then as far as mushrooms, powerful anti-cancer
effects. We want to use mushrooms and a variety of them if possible. But they’re best off
cooked because there’s a mild carcinogen called agaritine that blows off with cooking. So
I’m saying yes, eat a lot of raw food but add some cooked mushrooms to it because it’s
just a lot of benefits from cooked mushrooms that actually you’re even making it healthier
if you cook it lightly. John: Yeah, I want to encourage you guys not
to live by any dogma style but live with what’s important to you. Like, I’m starting to include
things like cooked mushroom powders to get those mushrooms in me because I want to be
disease proof and that’s what Doctor Fuhrman teaches you guys. Another thing I like to
say is on the onions like onions are one of the easiest things you guys could grow and
I like to prefer to eat the onion greens instead of the onion bulbs, they’re a lot more nutrient
dense. Dr. Fuhrman: That’s a good point. Then the
point, you also was making it’s fun to garden get to the earth and get your hands. I mean,
I’m loving to do that as a hobby. I have my own greenhouse and a garden and I’m growing
my own fig trees, my own tomatoes, my own vegetables, and my own beans. I eat them,
I grow broccoli but I eat a lot of the broccoli leaf right off the plant. The broccoli leaves
are fantastic. John: They’re way better, yeah.
Dr. Fuhrman: They’re better than the broccoli. John: They’re more nutrient dense too!
Dr. Fuhrman: Yeah, I’m just, I grow broccoli just to eat the leaves from the broccoli leaves.
I eat part of my meals right outside in the garden. I don’t even bring the food into the
house. I’ll grab a tomato, I’ll grab some broccoli leaves, I’ll pick some okra off the
plant, I’ll eat some, I’ll eat figs from my fig tree, I’ll start, and I’ll eat it, I’ll
eat berries outside. So I usually will eat part of my meal just like right outside in
the garden which is a lot of fun I think. John: It is, no I have a blast, I have plenty
of videos eating stuff out of the garden. So Doctor Fuhrman, last question for you.
Juicing, do you think juicing can be a beneficial part of a nutritarian diet?
Dr. Fuhrman: I think it can be especially with people with poor digestion or inability,
bad chewing because their teeth are older, their teeth are bad. So it adds the nutrients
to the diet for people who don’t have the time to chew a big salad or the ability to
chew a big salad. Juicing could be advantageous to people coming off a more conventional diet,
maybe they have a serious diagnosis like cancer and have to get the nutrients in their body
more quickly to increase their defenses. So juicing can be beneficial to people who aren’t
eating as well, don’t have the ability to chew as well.
So yeah, there’s a lot of reasons why you could use juicing. If you’re eating a perfect
diet it’s not essential you juice of course unless you have bad teeth and you can’t chew
very well. There’s also an advantage to chewing a salad over juicing of course because there’s
some advantage in mixing the bacteria in the mouth with actually the salad you chew and
forming more nitrogen and other beneficial compounds. So it is, if you are going to juice
it’s still good to eat a salad and chew one and eat a salad you actually eat and chew
too. The other problem is that you want to use
your teeth and you’re going to use your jaw because you don’t have want have jaw atrophy
and teeth atrophy because you’re juicing, maybe it’s smoothies and you don’t use your
teeth anymore. We want to actually chew things. You know what I mean?
John: Yeah, it’s important in my opinion to chew properly. Not just two chews on the lettuces,
greens, the broccoli greens and swallow. Dr. Fuhrman: That’s a good point.
John: Turn it into a mush. That’s why we feed babies baby food. Most people unfortunately
don’t chew things good enough and you can tell by looking in the toilet after you go
to the bathroom and seeing chunks of food. If you’re seeing chunks of food that’s in
the toilet after you’re done eating you’re not getting the benefit, it’s getting flushed
down the toilet. Dr. Fuhrman: I enjoyed talking to you, you’re
making a lot of great points. John: Thank you Doctor Fuhrman.
Dr. Fuhrman: It’s such a pleasure talking and I hope you’re all inspired from this and
I appreciate your work. John: Thank you Doctor Fuhrman. So, last thing
Doctor Fuhrman, if somebody wants to learn more about you, your books, get on your special
membership program so they can talk to you and you can answer their questions or one
of your other doctors on staff, how can they do that.
Dr. Fuhrman:, we have a member site and it’s a lot of fun, we have people
over the world communicating and a lot of people from other countries communicating.
I’m really excited that my books have been translated to 17 different languages around
the world, they all, but so it’s really exciting. Hope I, so if you have an particular concerns
it enables me to customize the advice for people with various conditions and concerns
or even answer people’s questions that they’re confused about.
The other issue is, that I mention, is my newest book just came out The End of Heart
Disease. It’s 440 pages, this is my biggest book ever. I think it’s really, I feel it’s
my best book because I really don’t, I analysis a lot of different diets, they’ve been to
reverse heart disease, but the really thing that I think that people need this type of
comprehensive look at the futility of the medical profession, the futility of angioplasty,
of bypass surgery, of cholesterol lowering drugs, the dangers of blood pressure medications.
It goes through not just the right thing to do but why, but if I really feel if people
saw how poor a choice, using medications to control symptoms were then many more millions
of people would choose to eat really healthfully. So I think it’s very motivational to give
people so much information. So even though there’s a lot of pages to read I really think
a lot of people are enjoying all the information I put in there.
John: Yeah, I mean I for one appreciate Doctor’s Furhman’s….
Dr. Fuhrman: Did you read it? John: Well I haven’t read that one yet.
Dr. Fuhrman: Yeah, okay. John: But I recommend you guys especially
if you don’t like reading, like I don’t like reading, like what I love to do is go to,
many of Dr. Fuhrman’s books are on audible, I download them to my iPod thing or whatever
and I listen to it while I’m gardening. Dr. Fuhrman: Oh really? I don’t, that’s a
good idea though. Sometimes I don’t like, when I’m in the car I would like to do that
but I can read faster than I can listen. John: I can listen faster. I can multitask.
Dr. Fuhrman: So I can sort on page really fast and if I do it, I’m sitting there going
too slow, I can’t sit through this, it’s too slow.
John: You could speed up the audio actually two times the speed.
Dr. Fuhrman: Oh you can speed it up? John: So you can listen to it really fast.
Dr. Fuhrman: That’s good. John: If you can comprehend it.
Dr. Fuhrman: It’s just a question of trying to get as much in as possible some of them,
I lose patience. John: Anyways, if you want to read it or get
the audible version, the whole point is you guys need to get Doctor Fuhrman’s information
because it will change your life, like it’s made a difference in mine, to take my diet
to the next level and I’m 100% confident it could take your diet to the next level too.
So listen to this guy, he knows a lot, he shares a lot and thank you for being on the
show today Doctor Fuhrman. Dr. Fuhrman: My pleasure. My pleasure.
John: Alright, so if you guys enjoyed this episode wit Doctor Fuhrman, hey please give
me a thumbs up I’ll be sure to get Doctor Fuhrman on in future episodes. Also be sure
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will help because getting on a nutritarian style diet is only going to help you because
I know most of the people I eat, especially in the raw foods circles that I hang out with
are not unfortunately on a nutritarian diet, eating enough of these nutrient dense foods.
Dr. Fuhrman: Some people are eating too much fruit.
John: Absolutely. Dr. Fuhrman: They’re not eating vegetables.
John: Fruit can be really detrimental. Dr. Fuhrman: Like the all fruit diet, was
just a little bit of vegetables, that’s right. John: That’s, lots of vegetables. Yeah, eat
some fruit too, but lots of vegetables. Dr. Fuhrman: Lots of vegetables.
John: Especially the onions and garlic and all this very important. Also be sure to check
my past episodes, my past episodes are a wealth of knowledge. I have over 450 episodes at
this time sharing with you guys how to eat a nutrient dense, plant rich diet. I don’t
know if I got Doctor Fuhrman’s approval on that one. So once again this is John Kohler
with We’ll see you next time, and until then remember keep eating your fresh
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100 thoughts on “Best Vegan Diet for Health is Not Starch Based with Dr. Joel Fuhrman

  1. I don't understand how Furhman talks about not what is a good diet but what is the BEST diet… and then doesn't object when the interview talks about including 5-10% meat in your diet. If you are going to criticise the starch camp by claiming it is not optimal and then talk about including meat… you really lose any leg you were standing on.

  2. what? ….he uses fear while targeting very young n very elderly ..who don't need more protein concentrates…less protein hurts kidney s less,same as children

  3. I like Dr. Fuhrman very much, but painting starches as the devil is not smart, IMHO. He mentions lots of research, yet totally omits the one on starches. I'd say to him: Eat a potato from time to time! You'll look and feel better. I also DO find it quite offensive to suggest it's ok for "some" people to eat certain small amount of animal products if the "need it". What people? And why would they "need" it? What's the science behind that??? That is a shocker for me to hear him even suggest that! I must say I'm very disappointed.

  4. It's simple; if it's a plant, I eat it. I really dont understand why people complicate this. Also Furhman doesn't want a diet named after him but has coined the term ''Nutritarian" diet which is directly associated with him! This guy complicates things way too much.

  5. Ok my two cents to me it's simple if nature made it eat it what's the problem? If man makes it don't eat it simple.Everyone has advice and opinions including Drs. Just eat WFPB and stay away from foods made by man there now everyone has the secret.

  6. A close friend was in bad car/bike accident and had a very serious brain injury even though he was wearing his helmet. He needed two brain surgeries–one major. He was a vegetarian and the surgeon told him he'd never operated on a vegetarian who wasn't anemic. He told my friend to eat meat so the second brain surgery would have a positive outcome.

    My friend is no longer a vegetarian.

  7. Smh
    Can you just said the true,
    You all are the survivors, Dr sebi was the last victim, you all are getting dumber every generation.
    At least theres dr nun amen ra

  8. Dr. Furhman is low key dropping the gauntlet at Dr. McDougall lol.

    I am not sure who has the "best diet". I have been playing with Dr. McDougall's, and I find myself always hungry and I am eating LOADS of starches. I haven't lost any weight either. I'll just keep playing with my ratios until something works. I am happier and have a lot more energy.

    I think regardless of what "diet"'you follow, any proponent of a Whole Foods plant based diet is right in my eyes

  9. According to the Blue Zones longevity research, the single food linked to the highest longevity of multiple cultures around the world was COOKED BEANS. Beans are a STARCH and the 2nd letter of Fuhrman's "must-have-daily" food acronym GBOMBS. You want health? You want longevity with a high quality of life? Make sure to eat COOKED BEANS as a regular part of your diet.

  10. 🙋 I’ve been craving food when I’m not hungry, especially at night. Last night I ate a sweet potato with a small amount of vegan butter and sprinkled with cinnamon. I didn’t have any food cravings at all. 🤗

  11. Misleading title bro. He said nothing against starch. He said in fact that gbombs are not the centerpiece of the diet. They can't be, you won't get enough calories.

  12. Gardening is fun! The act of gardening is the healthiest part of growing your own food or plants or flowers! I was a care giver for twenty years and all the healthy people I have met over eighty years old, who could still get up and down from the floor easy and were on very little or no medication were all gardeners. So learn how to garden and keep doing it! Even if is just flowers and not food!

  13. Stimulating and informative video. You need a machete it seems to cut through the jungle of misinformation in the "medical field." If only doctors took more interest in nutrition in the diagnosis especially for teenagers and the younger generation, health habits and results would be explosively powerful. Thank you for sharing. The truth shall set us all free.

  14. Wow!Love this Doctor, who speaks the truth and is intelligent enough to understand that everyone is different and that some people may require a little meat in their diets. Thank you

  15. Basing diet on beans more than starch taxes your kidneys — as said by Dr. McDougall. Also his diet is high in nuts and seeds which is a lot of fat – here's a summary :

  16. There are lots of toxins in nuts. In the Chinese food knowledge passed on by grandmothers and mothers, nuts is to be eaten very little and sparsely. Nuts go bad very quickly and can harbor moles and toxins easily that we can't see without a microscope. We can become very ill overeating nuts. I would say to eat more beans and legumes and not nuts. The key is to not pick and choose one or two veg to eat exclusively but to eat what is fresh in season and eat plenty of variety. The idea of eating 10 kinds of foods exclusively is a creation by Americans. No other country eat the way we eat. We are overly picky about the vegetables and fruits we eat. We have to start feeding babies these foods as soon as they are able to eat solid food. The introduction of taste and variety is the foundation of a person's taste palette and diet/health. This means the parents of the babies have to change their diet. The powder stuff is nonsense. Eat the real food, cooked and raw. It's the only way to get enough variety. Yes, this means potatoes, yams and other starchy vegetables. They are cheap and not just nutritious but extremely nutritious and very digestible. Is this 100% disease free, probably not, but it's as close as anything else we have out there.

  17. The way Iook at it is Dr. Fuhrman and Dr. McDougall are both right. I believe that if u want to put on pounds as an athlete or just maintain weight, the higher starches are the way to go. If you wanna lose weight eat more nutritarian. I eat the same foods they both prescribe just vary the ratios depending on my needs.

  18. I’m sold. I’ll eat more like he says, but I find it hard including seeds and nuts cuz I don’t buy or eat them. I am not scared of fat I simply don’t eat it other than oils and beans and peanuts. That leaves omega 3s in the dirt.

  19. Conclusion is that oil, sugar and animal products free diet is best diet for preventing and reversing chronic illness.

  20. I love listening to Dr. Fuhrman speak, I learn so much. His way of eating makes complete sense. I still worry about getting in too much dietary sugar but I will def add more nutrient rich food into my diet and cut way back on animal products

  21. if nuts and seeds are healthy then why dont they have any taste? i mean nut butters taste good but to just eat a plain unsalted nut is disgusting?

  22. Breakfast: 2 cups microwaved broccoli(too lazy to boil), smoothie with 1 cup of frozen blueberries, 600ml of cold water, and Sweet N Low packets.

    After workout food: same smoothie as breakfast, lots of red and green lentils with garlic powder, ginger, apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, turmeric, chopped spinach, masala, hot sauce, and tomatoes. I drink a ton of cold water bc it's spicy.

    Lunch: 2 sweet potatoes with masala, lemon juice, and hot sauce(contains no oil/salt/sugar), smoothie with 1-2 frozen bananas, lots of Sweet N Low, and water.

    Meal before dinner: 2-3 peanut butter and banana sandwiches with 4-5 clementines, French toast bagel with daiya cream cheese and some soy milk. Or sometimes I won't have the peanut butter sandwich and I'll have a hummus sandwich with spinach and tomatoes instead.

    Dinner: 3-4 vegan spicy chicken burgers chopped up in a bowl with chopped spinach, lemon juice, apple cider vinegar, ketchup, and tomatoes.

    After dinner: 1 liter of cold water. If I'm still hungry, I'll have some cold soy milk.

  23. this John guy is jumping out of his skin, being so loud and so aggressive turns off a lot of people . seems like you are trying to o hard to convince people. at least you allow Dr Fuhrman talk without interrupting which is a good thing,

    I try to watch him but get turned off quickly from his over the wall aggressive attitude, wish he was softer

    When interviewing better to ask questions and opinons rather than call his thinking a way or a diet like the Fhurman diet , he has never called nothing he does the Fuhrman diet like others who are there to make money,
    anyhow always good to have Dr Fuhrman on and sharing his knowledge

    John really listen to him he is there to give an opinion and not state what is for everyone like you are doing

  24. Here is my take. Each of us that are advocates of health and nutrition merely have pieces of a much larger puzzle. We must do our best to maintain a perfect harmony and balance with our bodies Mind and Spirit. We all must do what our body requires for us to do. In addition to that and let's meet people where there are at this present moment. So I agree that there is not a one-size-fits-all for everyone so we must do our best to allow our daily diet to Taylor fit us individually. What may work for one person may not work for another. I'm only speaking from my experience I weighed at one point 245 lbs now I'm a 120lbs. It's not about weight always it's about everything your mind your beliefs and then it's the food that you put in your body. The goal is to have an overall healthy balanced body and live a lifestyle that reflects it.
    I personally follow and recommended to my clients
    A Mind Spirit Plant-based Balanced eating lifestyle.
    It's centered on Meditation, Gratitude, Positive Energy – Quantum Physics teachings including eating fresh organic healthy fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, raw juices, smoothies, organic unrefined coconut oils, nut Butters, some cooked foods Such as beans lentils, quinoa, root vegetables and certain soups. Again I don't believe that one person or one diet is the answer to everything but everyone of us on this planet has pieces of a much larger puzzle. Everyone have a beautiful day I send love light joy peace blessings healing and abundance to you all 💙💡

  25. The people who use the term “plant-based” define it rather precisely. The term “nutritarian” is not at all precise, not to mention that it sounds weird.

  26. All populations around the globe in the “blue zones,” with the highest percentage of centenarians, are eating whole-food, plant-based diets.

  27. Can you help me determine when to include nuts and seeds back to diet? I am trying to follow a naturopath advice for a liver detox diet which is no fat or protein.

  28. The diet that works for me is seedless (no grains, legumes, nuts or seeds), but I eat only fresh or frozen meat, fresh eggs, unprocessed cheeses, cream, sour cream, butter, ghee, yoghurt, kefir, fresh fruits and vegetables, coconut oil, red palm oil, olive oil, fermented cod liver oil, sea salt, sea vegetables, herbs and spices. No seeds, caffeine, alcohol, milk, sweeteners, hydrogenated oils, interesterified oils, industrialized seed oils (cottonseed, corn, soybean, safflower and sunflower), MSG, aspartame, L-cysteine and refined carbohydrates. Exercise, sleep well and don't overeat.

  29. bias report i eat some meat and i am ok. i ask asians and they say watch the whole world. fuhrman never listen to asian cooking Asian folks give your opinion pls we need it

  30. One way of telling which of these diets is best is to look at the health of people promoting their own diet. A few years ago when Dr. John McDougall was 67 years of age he fainted in his bedroom on the way to the bathroom. In the process he fractured two of his lower vertebrae, his hip and ended with a spiral fracture of his upper leg bone. This speaks of terrible bone health. In fact I've never heard of a spiral fracture of a leg bone unless in a motorcycle accident or falling down a long flight of stairs. You can read about this event in Dr. McDougall's own words in the May 2016 issue of his newsletter still available on his web site. This tells me that forty years of following his own low protein, starch based diet with only B12 supplemented isn't a good diet for the long term. Stay with Joel Fuhrman's approach.

  31. All these experts, startch lovers, ”nutritarians”, health oriented high fat and health oriented low fat vegans alike will refer to science. There is a lot of biases at differents stages in scientific research. And a lot of cherry picking. Health is a complicated matter. What convinced me a lot is really fine results for people over a long period of time. As far as I can see both Furman, McDougal, True North and Barnard have those. And so do nutritionists that recommend plenty of healthy fats.

    Let’s say we are convinced that a plant strong eating style is a really good idea. And that processed foods and oils are probably not great. I personally see that people are different. And that being dogmatic in either direction is not smart. You have to tweak your diet your way. Tbh I agree with Dr Furman that some people may need some animal products. People who eat keto or even carnivore do have their science and their good results as well, actually. To which I choose to say ”ok lets see over time” plus ”I feel to be vegan actually”. And I will also see over time. Should I feel bad I will experiment. Hoping that if the ”i need salmon urgently” 😉😅should hit me one day, by then fake meat has already taken over the shelfs in my supermarket. Why not?

    I find Dr Furman super inspiring and I cannot believe it will hurt to check out for ourselves how much food we need and how much healthy fats make us do our best. Pushing low fat to young people may not be such a good idea. And selling the idea that starches is a nono may not either, I would say. But IS he really saying that??

  32. I totally agree with the comments regarding finding the middle ground between Fuhrman and McDougall, as just two examples of many promoters of whole food, plant-based diets. I first got started experimenting with diet back in 1978 as a 19 year old with high cholesterol, diabetes (by the now-antiquated definition) and high blood pressure, even though I was very lean and running 5 miles a day. I cured all of it in about 2 weeks by following the vegan "reversal" version of the Pritikin Diet. It worked wonders but my triglycerides were always pushing 150 mg/dl (or higher with even the slightest amount of alcohol) and my fasting glucose was always pushing 100 mg/dl. Total cholesterol was always very low though, typically in the 110-130 mg/dl range.

    Then, it was McDougall in the early 80s and Ornish in 1990 and Esselstyn and Campbell after that. I even experimented with keto and paleo along the way, both of which were a metabolic disaster. But, all along, I had been devouring the research myself and constantly experimenting on myself and taking my own measurements. My body became a built-in case control study! 

    So, after some 41 years now of experimenting on myself and reading all of the same studies that these gurus have read – and have generated themselves – I have come to the following conclusions: 

    Whole foods, plant-based is best but super low fat and super high fat diets – of ANY kind – do not produce optimal results. I personally obtain the best measured results (from A1C to hs-CRP to APO-B to non-HDC-C to glucose to triglycerides to CHOL/HDL ratio, etc) by eating a very wide range of whole plant foods including nuts and seeds and other high fat plant foods as long as you do the high fat stuff in moderation and you don't gain weight and get fat! Now, my blood glucose and triglycerides are always below 100 mg/dl and my HDL in higher (30s-40s instead of 20s) and my non-HDL-C is lower (<100 mg/dl)…and, I'm never hungry.

    I have even found that adding a little walnut oil or non-GMO, organic canola (both high in ALA) actually IMPROVES all biomarkers of disease in my own body. And, the literature supports that observation. There are several studies out there which show that people with the most linoleic acid in their blood (regardless of source) live the longest and have the least disease along the way. And, cancer risk is NOT increased despite the widespread verbalized concern that oxidized polyunsaturates would do just that. They just have not measured it in any epidemiological study which properly controls for that variable. So, ALL of these guys miss the boat a little bit on the oil thing. They don't ALL damage the endothelium. Walnut oil can actually counteract the endothelial constriction caused by olive oil and butter! So, extracted oils are OK as long as you're very selective and use them somewhat sparingly.

    So, after 41 years off my own study and measured experimentation, I have wound up somewhere in between Fuhrman and McDougall…with a healthy dose of Ornish and Pritikin in there too. I eat lots of high fiber starches but also lots of of nuts and seeds and beans and dark green leafies and berries and mushrooms and tubers, etc…basically, as wide a variety of plant foods as I can cook and eat every week. Studies of modern and ancient primitive populations have found that they consume a whopping 55 to 300+ different plant foods throughout the year, depending on their location. So, the greater the variety, the better! What one plant doesn't provide, one of the others will!

    And, speaking of the raw vs. cooked debate, humans just cannot get very far on a primarily raw diet. We have been cooking and processing our plants to make them less toxic and more digestible for well over 700,000 years (based on the latest studies). We just can't extract enough nutrients and calories from our food when it's raw, although getting a LOT of raw fruits and some raw veggies is also very helpful.

    Oh, one last thing. Dr. Fuhrman is pretty much dead nuts (pun intended) with his supplement recommendations. I've been following almost his exact recommendations for vegans for almost 40 years now based on my own studies and professional lab results. In fact, I just placed an order for Fuhrman's Men's Multi to cut down on the numerous separate supplements I had been taking for the exact same reasons he cites. Nice.

  33. Too much info on the internet these days… One Dr says so this another says that…. No wonder why people are getting confused.

  34. Thumbs down is not because of Dr. Fuhrman. It's because the "host" yells like a carnival barker, and comes across like a used car salesman. Hard to listen to for more than a few seconds.

  35. I was there, in 2006, when a 'brawl', almost broke out. It started out, calmly enough,
    but them some words and terms, crept in, ( words like niche.theory, and second class nutrition )
    that only escalated the contentious controversy. In the future, I hope more people will think first,
    and then choose their words more carefully.

  36. I like how those book writers declare you nutrient deficient just to sell the books.

    Here is what you need to know: if you are fat, cut fats off your food. If you're too ski, add fucking fat!

    That's all.

  37. My problem is the fruit acid kills my teeth. I’ve akways enjoyed cherries, apples, and blueberries but they kill my teeth 😢 I’m trying to get off my choc addiction lol! But these particular fruit kill my teeth.. ugh!

  38. Love Dr. Furhman, you have to really pay attention when he's talking since he talks so fast, and has so much good info to share. 💕🌱💪

  39. He ignores the diets of the longest lived peoples that eat things like sweet potatoes. Demonizing sweet potatoes since they are starch is nonsense. By also demonizing fruits, he tries to cut out the foods that the longest lived people eat. In his ignorance, he deceives people as to what diets allow one to live a long, healthy life.

  40. I LOVED what he said about raw and cooked veggies…So many raw food zealots are fanatically attached to the raw religion ,, they simply can't see the many benefits to cooked foods.Many veggies increase in nutrient value when cooked

  41. Very inspiring and very informative.
    And I agree it is much faster to read than to listen, but the advantage of listening is that you can be physically active while listening

  42. Dr. Fuhrman expertice is not even close to the one of Cardiologist Dr. Esselstyn that only purpose was to save human lives from death. He clearly states that a diet high in fatty foods like nuts prevents the regression of arterial placs and raise cholesterol level above the threshold to be protected against arterial placs which is 130mg/dl. I have followed Esselstyn advice for 10 years and my arteries at 42 are of a 19 years old young man and my Total Cholesterol has been always around 100mg/dl this last 10 years. I do not consume nuts if not 2-3 walnuts daily and a full spoon of ground flaxseed for my omega 3 needs. No avocados either. Fatty foods as Dr. Esselstyn states, and I confirmed this myself in our clinic, decrease arterial function by 30 to 40%. So yes to Beans and all the rest but not fatty foods like oils, nuts, seeds and avocados. EDIT: Also okraw didn’t you post a video about that raw vegan man that had a stroke because he consumed a diet also high in peanuts and nuts butters? Did you already forget?

  43. In response to the comments below, take a leap of faith, and assume that a starch based diet, and a 'nutritarian' diet, are not that far apart. Then experiment with both, and work out the details afterwords.

  44. Thanks for this video.
    What's interesting to me is that doctors have always said diet and exercise diet and exercise diet and exercise and it's extremely true but it's all in the details for each individual's biome and genetics are so different that each individual requires specific types of nutrient and exercise regimens.
    I see where the title of this video makes sense but truly I didn't hear any mentioning of starches and for me I've found starches to be quite detrimental especially potatoes.where they literally make my intestines explode.
    I wish everyone lives long and prosperous lives and find the proper diet that helps them achieve it.
    Again thank you for this video it sounds like it's coming from the 💓 and backed up with adequate research and study.

  45. Vegetarian Atkins,,,,or vetkins eat as per u r activity level n u r body is best teacher by how it feels in short to long term

  46. Tbh, i tend to eat starches mostly after working out. Hella proteins. I'd never be able to recover so quickly only eating raw. But i seem to eat mostly raw or half raw. If i eat starches only, i get hungry as hell until i eat some dried fruits. If i eat only raw, i dont really get in my needed calories. But i definitely love dried fruits, nutsb broccoli and kale!

  47. This YouTube episode is nearly 3 y/o so I give Dr. Fuhrman points for being consistent. Ironically, though, it would seem that he those "hundreds of studies" that show low-fat, vegan diets shorten the human lifespan because he's never posted them on his site which would be the best place to find them in support for his Nutritarian approach. On top of that, Jeff @ VegSource already pointed out that the research out there on nuts are funded by the nut industry and simply aren't particularly compelling. His recent YouTube post even documents one of the studies as stating that they can no longer point to nuts as being as beneficial as previously believed. Furthermore, when Jeff asked for his "hundreds of studies," Dr. Fuhrman simply wrote a blog post reiterating the same flawed and biased research that's already out there. So, it's NOT overwhelming. And, sorry, but Dr. Ornish has his own clinical experience (and published research) showing his approach works. Lastly, I agree, Dr. McDougall is rather dogmatic about his starch-based approach. It DOES concern me when he talks over his guests on his own interviews or when he is interviewed by others. Why he hasn't learned appropriate interviewing and listening skills is beyond me. However, I've not really seen him in any other light. He's kind of a jerk … he even admits as much in his interview with Spudman. I suppose that's his shtick. All of this back and forth is silliness. Eat veggies (including LOTS of cruciferous ones), include non-starchy, colorful veggies as well, eat your starches and protein, include a few nuts and seeds here and there and call it a day. Despite my comments I did enjoy the interview … 🙂

  48. Diet is important, but it isn't relevant to health if you are working 18 hours a day, getting 2 hours of sleep, stressed to the max from your kids screaming all day and your boss shoving his foot up your asshole, getting no exercise, and are constantly around negative energy sucking people.

  49. good video.but what about EPA and DHA and Opti 3 that Dr Michael gregers promote?So that vegans do not get shrinking brains according to him!And what about that one can get thinning blood and can get strokes if eating too much EPA or DHA according to Dr Rick Dina?Both vegans.How much omega 3 can one eat per day to not get thinning blood?And how much of omega 3 rich food and other nuts,fats can one at per day to get a balance?And WHY do vegans get shrinking brains like Dr mIchael Greger said?I am vegan so I really wonder.WHY do vegans get shrinking brains?Its scary.WHATS WRONG???!

  50. We eat this way as well as cycle a keto approach. It just seems that reducing or eliminating poor and processed carbs and sugar are the big ones. We intermittently fast 24, 48 & 72 hours. 2 days a week we eat 3 meals and the other days it’s usually a 4 hour window to eat our calories. We’re now looking at a 5 day fast twice a year. Good health everybody!

  51. The problem isn't veganism. The fact is when most people stop eating meat they continue eating the way they were without the meat. So someone can be vegan and still be eating mostly bread, pasta, rice, processed foods instead of mostly veggies and different fruits. So to be a healthy Vegan one must continuously educate oneself about nutrients and add chia, flaxseed, plantbased protein powders and lots of micro and phyto nutrients.

  52. Hey John, you probably weren't aware of this or maybe Dr. Fuhrman hadn't come out with his so called "natural" supplement line yet, but I think you'd be flabbergasted if you looked at the ingredients on the labels of his supplements. He isn't a TRUE BLUE believer in whole foods for healing. Look at all the man made isolates he uses in his supplement line. Remember, our bodies can ONLY recognize and fully utilize WHOLE FOOD. Our bodies don't know what to do when presented with man-made isolates ie Vitamin A , Magnesium, Calcium etc. All that happens is stimulation but later ENERVATION which none of us wants. [You also have to wonder how medical science that STILL doesn't understand BASIC aspects of physiology like the lymphatic system, can even pretend to know how much of any so called "nutrient" a human might need! ]Whereas if you take an herb like Slippery Elm Bark or Nettles or Dandelion or Comfrey you will get a plethora of vitamins and minerals all bound together in perfect balance so that it is not only recocgnized but digested, utilized and later eliminated while healing the body and certainly doing NO HARM like the man made isolate supplements do.

    Sadly it seems Dr. Fuhrman isn't any different than the rest of medical doctors who have tried to jump on the health bandwagon. They only half know what they are talking about and are just in it to sell books and supplements to the unsuspecting naive public. Look at this on VegSource where Dr. Campbell, author of the China Study is now saying he wants to be disassociated with Dr. Fuhrman.

  53. Some believe the term "Dr" is a good thing. It should be, but sometimes it isn't. Check out VEGsources latest videos regarding DR Fuhrmans claims.

  54. Jainist diet would be a good reference for vegan diet. Jainism is as old as Buddhism and has a diet relating to minimal death for food.

  55. Sadly Cancer is increasing due to heavy metals being sprayed on us daily in chemtrails, toxins in the air in the water emf's wifi and now the killer 5G ignore 5G at your peril cancer will go through the roof.

  56. Then you have the doctor who says not too eat beans and legumes because of LIGNINS, my god y ou end up what the fk can I eat!!

  57. I've found that a diet recommended by the NHS in the UK works for me. Omnivorous.

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